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Rick, it was terrible in every aspect. I told the pro after playing it, he should be ashamed to accept any money for us playing there and told the WA staff they should not pay them at all. The WA staff have to take the word of the local club about its condition and this is not the first time Founders has had issues with the flight I was in. I will never to my money to play there. I tried to give them a bad review but it didn’t stay on their site for long, probably have a full time person checking and taking them down. I have been pleasantly surprise with what other people are telling me what they have experienced this year but they are like me, only play the better courses. Also have a buddy living and working at one of the better layouts and he is already lining up courses for vacation