John I agree. I had zero beach time. Spent money on an oceanfront hotel and didn’t get to really use it. I felt so bad for the groups we were holding up and the glares I got. The group in front of us was long gone. At least with shotgun everybody has the same course conditions. I know people have bad holes but I thought the max 9 was to help the pace of play. Granted if the group is making eights it does slow down. I try to keep it moving even when I’m struggling.