All Flights Skins Games

[Scott Porter]

In the past there have been several individual postings for people running skins games in the different flights. Last year Scott put them all under one post and that worked really well, so I thought I would help him out and start a new post just for skins information in the different flights. If you are planning to run skins in a particular flight or looking to see who is running skins in your flight, this should be the place.

[Scott Porter]

Since we do not have course assignments yet it is difficult to say what flight I will actually be in but I should be in the Senior group around flight 19 or 20. I will be more than happy to run the skins unless someone else really has their heart set on it. Below is the basic rules I use, should be fairly consistent with most flights.

To make it easy on everyone, especially me, it would be great if everyone who intends to participate in the skins game can pay in full on Monday. This also helps in those rarest of occasions when the pot roles over from the previous day, if you did not participate on the prior day you cannot join on that day. Skins buy-in will be $20, $20, $20 & $40 for a total of $100. For ease of scoring, I will combine both flights into one pot; this should make for nice payouts.

Typical skins rules:
• Birdies or better on a hole to win a skin.
• Two birdies on a hole cuts the hole.
• Should there be a day that all skins are cut the pot will roll over to the next day.
• On the last day if all skins are cut, I will put all participants’ names in a hat and draw 5 winners to split the pot equally.
Any birdies turned in for scoring should be done as follows:
• Text a picture of your official scorecard with all signatures to my cell number. State in the text your name and hole number birdie was scored on. You may also present your scorecard prior to turning it in for the birdie pool scoring. Keep in mind the sooner I get scorecards, the sooner everyone is paid and can leave.
• I will make sure to be at the course at least 30 minutes before we tee off each day so anyone wanting to participate in skins that day can get their money in.

If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask.
My Information:
Scott Porter
Cell – 804-690-2773 (This is the number to use for texting score card.)

[David Baker]

Good day all WA golfers. I have run the skin game in my flight for the past 25 years. With tee times it is definitely more work to get those who want to play involved. When Flights are published I was thinking that it might be easier for those who desire to play to use Cash App to speed the process. I have a Condo on 70th Ave N just up from the Cain Patch Driving Range. I also have Venmo as an option. I will be in MB on the Thur before to pick up my buddy coming from Vegas. We are playing at Blackmoor on Sunday. my e mail address is DBaker7848@aol.com and my cell number is 757.580.6314. Once Flights are posted I will send out more information. Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. I was in FL 53 last year and should be close to that this year. David

[Dale Craig]

You do realize that most people probably don’t read posts on the BB and therefore any notices you post will not be seen prior to the WA.

[David Baker]

True but some will see it. Had a reasonable response last year.

[Mike Sigmon]

You be surprise how many people look at this BB and read every post

[Chandler Wells]

LOL…Mike is right, most people use it to find info and don’t reply.

I ran the traditional skins game for Flights 12-13 last year. Should be in or near the same flight and have no issue with being there early the 1st day to run it again, if there are no complaints about last year…I think it was super smooth…Once they announce flights/courses I will post again.

[Andreas Mealey]

Hey guys Andy Mealey here and I’ve played in WAM for over 30 years and have run skin game
the last 20 some years will do so again this year. I’m currently 14.9 and will combine both flights
in the 60-69 age group assignments will post more after flights are assigned. See you soon!

[Raymond Abernathy]

Chandler,
I will probably be in your flight this year. I have one favor to ask, each day please notify everyone in the game of the days results before paying out, ie what hole held up and with what score.
The flight I was in last year the guy running it just said he would call you if you had a skin. So after round 1, no call so I figure no skin for me. The next morning well before the 1st tee time I ask the guy what held up, he says there were 3 skins and the hole #’s, then adds there would have been a 4th skin but the only birdie on that hole didn’t get in the game. I start to walk away, then look at my phone with the scorecard picture I sent him after the round. I make a u-turn to go find him and collect for my 2 skins. He says I wasn’t in the game. He had my name on his list of skins players and a copy of my scorecard showing the birdies. I showed him my photo and say I am here to collect, and he responds “I already paid out and can’t get the money back.” By the way, the 4th potential skin, I had birdied that hole also. He then said it wouldn’t have mattered because there was another birdie on that hole. After he had already said there was only one birdie on the hole.
On the last day, several people from both flights as we were waiting in line at the convention center looked through the World Am page and looked at all scores for both flights, hole by hole for the last day. Don’t know who all was in the skins game, but there were 2 holes with only 1 birdie each. Guess what, neither of them got paid and both were in the skins game.
I would say 99% of players volunteering their time running the skins games in their flights do an outstanding job. That 1% however…….

[Billy Burwick]

Stupid question But how do you determine flight #’s

[Bruce Friend]

I am one that knows for a fact there are many stupid questions but that isn’t one. Go to the past results on the web page and possibly look at last year results. Link below. Starts with Flight 1 which is the youngest age group Gross Division. Then it gets split up by approximately 52 golfer per flight as the index gets higher and higher until the highest index for that age group. Then it starts with the Seniors Gross and does the same thing. It should make sense if you look at it for a few minutes.

https://worldamclassic.golfnet.com/results

[Chandler Wells]

Hey Ray…I believe you and I’m sorry that happened and we have a friend that had a similar thing happen to him in Flight 18 last year. I stay with a friend of mine down there and he and I have run skins games together in PA since ’08, he now runs in his local Myrtle groups. He is my trusted 2nd eye! We did have a small hiccup last year, but it worked itself out…We had a guy submit his card backward 9’s and he was paid a skin at the end of the day (3) total @ $450ea. There was another guy that asked me the next day why he didn’t get paid on what showed as the only birdie on the CORRECT hole. Once we verified the scoring on the app, those 2 would’ve “CHOPPED” and the other 2 skins should have been paid 1/2 more, $675ea. I reached out directly to the guy via text and gave him the chance to make it right, needless to say he didn’t and kept the wrongly paid skin $$$.
I keep a sheet with all players listed and record EVERY birdie. Last 2 years were long days because I teed off 1st twice and waited until all players finished to pay. If they had to leave I had envelopes for them 1st thing next day.
I plan to run the skins and will post again once flights are released, I’m not a tyrant about it, but have done it 3 years now and haven’t had any issues…Maybe we’ll see each other there! Cheers!!!

[Jason Miller]

I will once again be running the Skins for Flights 1 & 2. NO CASH; CashApp or Venmo preferably.

If you’re in Flight 1 or 2 and don’t know me from prior years I’ll be playing the Prestwick skins game Sunday and I’ll make it easy to find me Monday morning.

[Scott Porter]

OK, courses are in, I will run skins in Senior flight 16 and 17. Unless someone else really has their heart set on running it.
To make it easy on everyone, especially me, it would be great if everyone who intends to participate in the skins game can pay in full on Monday. Should anyone want to pay by Venmo I have that as well. This also helps in those rarest of occasions when the pot roles over from the previous day, if you did not participate on the prior day you cannot join on that day. Skins buy-in will be $20, $20, $20 & $40 for a total of $100. For ease of scoring, I will combine both flights into one pot; this should make for nice payouts. I

Typical skins rules:
• Birdies or better on a hole to win a skin.
• Two birdies on a hole cuts the hole.
• Should there be a day that all skins are cut the pot will roll over to the next day.
• On the last day if all skins are cut, I will put all participants’ names in a hat and draw 5 winners to split the pot equally.
Any birdies turned in for scoring should be done as follows:
• Text a picture of your official scorecard with all signatures to my cell number. State in the text your name and hole number birdie was scored on. You may also present your scorecard prior to turning it in for the birdie pool scoring. Keep in mind the sooner I get scorecards, the sooner everyone is paid and can leave.
• I will make sure to be at the course at least 30 minutes before we tee off each day so anyone wanting to participate in skins that day can get their money in.

If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask.
My Information:
Scott Porter
Cell – 804-690-2773 (This is the number to use for texting score card.)

[Jason Miller]

Flights 1 and 2, here’s your invite/info: https://bit.ly/3CzL7yz

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