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- July 31, 2020 at 9:17 pm #47733Charles GrayParticipant
I am definitely in for Greg Normans. Understand the food is excellent, I love to eat and especially love to drink. Sometimes find myself doing too much of the latter while golfing though…..28 days and a wake up until my flight. So very much looking foward to this much needed vacation! See you soon!August 1, 2020 at 9:03 pm #47741
Tommy, you most probably are correct. But I will always lobby to get us the best possible courses to play. In fact, we are probably at a greater risk this year of getting more of the lesser courses.August 2, 2020 at 9:21 am #47743
Bob I would be willing to bet we end up with the same number of courses as in years past.
Assuming we go to one golfer per cart (which is what every other association I know of has done), we would need to accommodate twice as many golfers as normal. At a bear minimum one golfer per cart is the what I am sure every course and more importantly attorney has told the WA they need to do to protect themselves from a liability standpoint.
We may only have 2150 registered, the WA will need to accommodate 4300 “carts” which is almost a thousand more than in any recent year. Like I said before less golfers, the same number of courses, tee times and the fact these courses have already “booked” the times that week would lead me to believe it is too late to take a chance on locking the WA out to try to bring in regular play.August 2, 2020 at 9:46 am #47744Landis CouringtonParticipant
I believe we will play. Also, I think the final number will be less than 2100 but still a good number considering everything going on.
Tommy Briggs I am curious, 4300 carts for 2150 players?
Individual carts really speeds up play.August 2, 2020 at 9:55 am #47745Landis CouringtonParticipant
My hat is off to Scott and the entire World Am crew-I know they have spent countless hours to deliver as safe of a golf tournament as possible. The players need to hold up their part-wear masks when required, wash or sanitize their hands often and lookout for their fellow flight mate.August 2, 2020 at 12:49 pm #47746
Landis ignore that comment it was poor math. Normally with 3,200 golfers the WA would require a total of 1,600 carts with two golfers per cart. With one person per cart the WA will need 2,150 carts. Where i was going (but never got there) is that this year we will actually need more carts than a normal year so we will need every bit as many if not more courses than we would in a normal yearAugust 2, 2020 at 2:43 pm #47747Bill HambrickParticipant
By my math with approx 2150 players and 2 flts per course and 36 players per flt we will need approx 30 courses per day. With 72 players on the course each course will need 72 carts per day.August 2, 2020 at 2:50 pm #47748
Don’t we normally have 46 – 48 players per flight?
Normally 65 flights, so about 33 players per flight
Using tee times and one player per cart I think the flight size would be reduced
If we stick with 65 flights, 30 – 36 players per flight we are going to need the same amount of courses as we ever haveAugust 2, 2020 at 2:53 pm #47750Bill HambrickParticipant
Tommy, yes but the W/A put out a few weeks back that there would be a limit of 36 players per flt for social distancing purposesAugust 2, 2020 at 3:08 pm #47751
Even if we get to 2500 players, only 35 courses per day would be needed. They usually say we utilize about 60 different courses (strictly from memory). I would just like to see some of the courses eliminated from the rotation. I know it will not happen bit I think that some of the courses do not report their conditions accurately to the WA STAFF. The WA staff does not have the time to inspect each course.August 2, 2020 at 3:52 pm #47753
Bob 2500 golfers, 36 per flight means we need 35 courses
3200 golfers, 46 per flight equals a need for 35 courses
Nothing changes, regarding quality, you never burn a bridge like that because you never know when you might need them. I always plan on playing one course I would never play under normal circumstances, but I understand it’s value to the tournament.August 2, 2020 at 5:00 pm #47754
Tommy, it is a tournament, if a course is not in good enough shape to play it down, then, it should not host a round. This is just my opinion. I have expressed this before. It is not a complaint about the WA, but is a complaint about the courses not being truthful to the WA.August 2, 2020 at 5:35 pm #47756
Bob I play 30+ tournaments a year, I could play more but some host courses don’t fit my game, others just don’t excite me (quality or distance). When you play a tournament on four different courses your options to control the quality of the courses are limited.
1. Limit the number of players, thereby limiting the number of courses.
2. Increase the entry fee to increase your leverage with the “best” courses.
Those are the only two options you have to control the quality of the courses you play.I just anticipate I am going to play one “dog” a year and know the other three are going to be more fun.August 2, 2020 at 7:20 pm #47759Rick KimbrellParticipant
Bob, you said “I have expressed this before. It is not a complaint about the WA, but is a complaint about the courses not being truthful to the WA.” Does Founders Club at Pawley’s come to mind when we played it couple years back?August 2, 2020 at 8:17 pm #47762
Rick, it most certainty comes to mind. That course was not fit to play. I asked the Pro after the round if he was actually going to charge the WA for us playing that day. He asked what was wrong with the course and I told him. Even offered to go ride and show him all the bare lies in the landing areas of the fairways, etc. The sad thing is that course still shows up on promo’s for beach golf, and I send in a review about it that stays up about 30 minutes. There are plentey of outstanding courses on the Strand that we should not have to play the bad ones. I do not expect all to be Calendona, Tidewater. True Blue Internation, Preswick, Pawleys Plantatation , Rive Club, The Dunes, Pine Lakes, TPC, Willbrook, etc. but , some need to be eliminated. I feel like we pay for premium golf courses and we should get better. And once again I will state, these courses are not telling the STAFF of there condition. I will play on whatever they put me own and try my best to enjoy it, but i will let the home course know if they take advantage of us.
Thanks Rick, my blood pressure is now thru the roof. I am not buying you a beer now and you owe me 2. haha–see yu soon
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