- September 3, 2020 at 2:40 pm #48535
So I have a friend who was suppose to get 7 strokes the first day then 8, 8, and 9 the rest of the week. He shot 82 85 and 80 didn’t have the lowest round each day but he had strokes taken off each day for exceptional play when no one else did! He shot a 76 today to what we thought was a win. Only to find out he had those strokes taken! How does this happen?September 3, 2020 at 2:46 pm #48536
Also he didn’t even have the lowest rounds those first three days then just played really well todaySeptember 3, 2020 at 3:39 pm #48539
Can anyone answer? I think this is extremely messed up!September 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm #48541Bill McArdleParticipant
Doesn’t seem to make sense. Looks like under par net only on the last daySeptember 3, 2020 at 4:17 pm #48542
Exactly! They told him the computers picked him out! How? Because other people played better the first three days and they weren’t picked out? How can you give us a sheet with the strokes we started for the entire week then change it mid tourney?September 3, 2020 at 4:43 pm #48544
Called the Committee decision!! No logic/reasoning/fairness!!
It’s like throwing darts at a dartboard to see who they reduce or DQ!
They’re only reasoning is ITS THE SYSTEMSeptember 3, 2020 at 5:05 pm #48546
Need to apologize for the above post!! This was not Raymond Blank posting it but me, Wayne Blank, who played years ago!! I used Ray’s sign in without his knowledge!!
I apologize for the post!September 3, 2020 at 5:14 pm #48547
Please forgive me for giving my info to family members I thought I could trust.
I apologize from the bottom of my heart. I would never put something like that for all to read.
Y’all do a lot of stuff for us to come and play here
I am so sorry that happen
Ray BlankSeptember 3, 2020 at 6:54 pm #48551Al BeardParticipant
This is not a complaint, but a fear I had coming in…….19 Handicap, okay? First three days were 101, 99, 110, Than today I shot 92, which is about average, but 18 strokes better than Wed. No cheating, just had a bad first 3 days. I’d hate to have been near the top, and have this happen just because I had a good day on a course that I have played before. So many variables to consider. My first day’s flight leader got DQ’d because he played really well. FIRST DAY!!! Glad it wasn’t me. I will say I had a great time, my first time. I will be back, just hope this DQ thing doesn’t happen to me because I was honest, and a had a good day. Don’t simply rely on computers alone.September 3, 2020 at 7:10 pm #48554
You will get better as the week goes we were in flight 5 he is a 7.6 handicap and his best round was a 76 which is around what a 7.6 should shoot and he was penalized for itSeptember 4, 2020 at 8:03 am #48567Timothy TullioParticipant
a 76 is not what a “7.6” handicap “should shoot.” more like a 79-81 depending on course rating.September 4, 2020 at 8:19 am #48568Bill McArdleParticipant
How does ones handicap ever improve at any level if you never have any rounds better then the existing handicap ?September 4, 2020 at 6:44 pm #48602
The course was shorter than anything we played this week the greens were flat and there were more scoring chancesSeptember 4, 2020 at 7:14 pm #48603Scott GreenwellParticipant
The World Am committee makes no secret about how they come to these conclusions. They have emailed out information in the past about how they calculate things. It’s all based on statistics. There really is no other way to use a handicap system and keep things fair. Your handicap is generated based on calculations… scores, slope, rating… it is not an exact science. Unfortunately, if your score falls outside of the realm of probability, especially over multiple days, then how else should the committee make those decisions without making exceptions and appearing to show favoritism? Every year I have played (8) I have seen or heard of many people getting disqualified. It sucks for anyone who is legitimately posting scores and keeping a valid handicap but unfortunately that seems to be the price for trying to ensure people aren’t getting more shots than they should.September 4, 2020 at 7:41 pm #48607Bob NewmanParticipant
You have to look at your differential for the round. This is based on a formulation that includes your c score versus par, slope of course. etc. the formula is on the USGA website under handicaps. It is difficult to explain and I am no expert on it. Somewhere, there is a probably chart or calculator as to how many times in 20 rounds you will actually shoot your handicap. The last time I was told, you should only break your handicap 3 times in 20 rounds and and not by a substantial amount. Thus the Probability off doing that multiple times in 4 rounds is what gets everyone. Ask who run tournaments (net) use all this when running events. I know the WA does in the way they try to keep it fair to those of is that post all P.O. scores. JMO
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