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  • in reply to: course yardage #49913
    Mike Hammer
    Participant

    For flight 41, tees were changed from white to gold for 3 of the 4 courses. They weren’t changed for Aberdeen. Will flight 41 play from the whites or golds on Aberdeen?
    Thanks!

    in reply to: Recommended Hotels #49666
    Mike Hammer
    Participant

    I would recommend something in the Windy Hill section of North Myrtle Beach. It’s relatively central to the north and south courses and has quick access to Hwy 31 which is a bypass freeway which gets you up and down the Grand Strand. If you stay near the airport, it is a trek to the North Carolina courses. Even from Windy Hill, you can get courses that take nearly an hour to get to if you hit traffic, but at least you take the really long drives out of play if you get one of the furthest north courses. An alternative is to wait to see what courses you get and select a hotel afterward. However, I’ve been doing this 33 years and there almost always seems to be a nice mix of north and south courses in the rotation.

    in reply to: SKINS in Flights #47884
    Mike Hammer
    Participant

    I’ve never run skins, but I think each course might handle that differently. That is why above I have the organizer provides the rules step. For example, I have played where 2 birdies on the same hole split the skin where most play that 2 birdies on the same hole cancel the skin. I think most have played where no skins on day 1 carries over to day 2, 3, etc. I am sure there are tie breakers out there, just not sure what they are. Maybe the veterans can chime in here, but I could see things like most birdies (all week or by day); lowest score for the last nine, last 18, etc. as possible tie breakers. What I am sure of is that the past organizers have had ways for resolving ties.

    in reply to: SKINS in Flights #47882
    Mike Hammer
    Participant

    The committee does have some extra work for either alternative. But they probably have ways to make it easier that what is described. For example, they could post the flight rosters and put out a message asking people to check this blog for how to enter the skins game. Then those who want to run skins can take it from there (for example, start a topic “Skins game – flights 8 and 9). There is more up front work for the organizer, but less on-course work so they can focus on their games during the tournament. Anyway, just trying to suggest ways to get around the issues. Without some extra help from the committee and course pros, the minimum alternative is for an organizer to be there early on day 1 and stay late on all the days. If they get unlucky and have one of the Barefoots or Wild Wing, that could be a ridiculously long day that, like someone already suggested, would probably result in no interest for volunteers.

    in reply to: SKINS in Flights #47880
    Mike Hammer
    Participant

    I know many like to participate in the skins games. I know last year, I started with a 9, was 18 over after 8 holes, then birdied number 9, birdied 2 holes on the back and walked away with $300+. So, not so great for the tournament, but not a bad day.

    After reading the posts regarding skins game logistics with tee times and the reluctance to organize skins games from veterans, I thought I would propose a couple of ways that they could happen without too much of a burden on the organizers. Both require a little help (either from course pros or the committee).

    The description below is admittedly long and detailed, but I hope it sparks some additional ideas and discussion so we can make the skins games happen.

    Basics:
    • 1 skins game per flight pair (one game for combined flights at a course)
    • Pay in advance for all days – no getting in after the first day, must participate all
    days
    • Cost and game rules determined by flight organizer
    • Process requires organizer to be at the course early on day one and late on the last day.
    On middle days, organizer only has to process scores (alternative 1). Alternative 2 –
    organizer just has to stay late the last day.
    • May require some participation from host courses. Committee clear the way?

    Process (alternative 1 – help from course pros):
    1) August 19th – Flights assignments made (requires committee to beat published latest date
    for course assignments which they usually do)
    2) August 21st – Those interested in running skins email the committee.
    3) August 22nd – Committee selects organizer (first person to volunteer per flight pair).
    4) August 23rd – Committee sends list of flight pair organizers along with their email
    addresses to all participants (or posts on the website).
    5) August 26th – Participants email organizer to register for the skins game in their flight
    pair.
    6) August 30th – Organizers create and print out participant list.
    7) August 31st, 1 hour before first tee time – Organizer gives list and container for
    collecting money to course pro. Pro collects money and checks off participants who have
    paid.
    8) August 31st, after round. Organizer collects checked-off list and money from pro. Those
    with birdies or better send photo (text or email) of official card with birdies/eagles
    circled (1 or 2 circles) to organizer (NLT 6 pm). Organizer determines winning skins,
    makes envelopes with winnings, and emails winners of their success.
    10) September 1st, organizer gives previous day envelopes to pro. Winners collect winnings
    from pro either before or after round (depending on if organizer has early or late tee
    time). Those with birdies or better send photo of official card with birdies/eagles
    circled (1 or 2 circles) to organizer. Organizer determines winning skins, makes
    envelopes with winnings, and emails winners of their success.
    11) September 2nd – Same process as September 1st.
    12) September 3rd – Same process except organizer and those with birdies/eagles stay late to
    determine and distribute/receive winnings.

    Process (alternative 2 – help from committee) – basically, the same process as above with the following exceptions:
    1) Organizers are selected as above and create rule sheets for their games.
    2) Organizers provide rules for their skins game to committee.
    3) Committee includes skins game enrollment during tournament registration (rules
    available). Participants who want in sign up and pay during registration at the
    Superstores (eliminates course pros from having to collect money).
    4) Organizers collect skin game rosters and money from Committee at the Convention Center
    after Monday’s round.

    For both alternatives, the committee would need to contact course pros and request/describe the assistance required.

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