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Played Crown Park yesterday. Course was very wet, some bunkers were still full of water. Yep, bugs were out as an added bonus! Now, today the sun is finally out so things will be drying out, hopefully?
We have (2) guest passes for the 19 hole available. Email me if interested. firstname.lastname@example.org. We are planning to pick up our packages on Saturday morning at the North Myrtle Superstore.
Mike, I look at it differently. Any vacation I take is a break from the norm to kick back and enjoy some different surroundings. Overall, Myrtle Beach has so much to offer, especially when you look at the vast amount of beaches and water activities, it’s almost endless, and then throw in golf as a bonus. I take (4) vacations a year and this is by far the most reasonable for what it offered. As far as the finger food and gift bag, I’m not a fan of either, I would love a choice to just get a restaurant gift card(s) as they did during Covid! But, that’s just me…
I agree with Rick, I have played in enough shotguns through the years to say that if there is a ranger on the course and he is monitoring the pace of play all he has to do is find where the holdup is. It is usually a group with a hole open in front of them. Speed that group up and the problem is solved! Last year I played in a shotgun that even had (3) “C” groups, rangers kept it moving and all 156 players finished in just over 4 1/2 hours.
I had a comical one this year for lift, clean and place.
We got briefed on the tee box by the starter and Lift, Clean and Place was in play for the day.
After the briefing I asked if it was a scorecard or a club length because in prior World AM’s I was told a scorecard only or a club length.
The Starter read it again from the sheet and chuckled and the said “You can do what the rule says”…
I have read all the comments here and both sides have some very good points.
Myself, I will always stand firm on tee times as most all tournaments do.
I have played the shot gun side of it here at the World Am for years and that format is a not a good tournament format.
For years during the shotguns I have not been able to warm up as I refuse to wait in line for a bay. On the practice greens I put a tee in just to get a tee for speed and grain. I don’t want to say that the guys who bring a full bag of clubs to the range are ignorant but come on, it’s to warm up, not dial in every club in your bag! That is for other times, not warm ups.
But, we have those guys here who spent almost an hour doing it!
Pace of play is not the result of either format. More often than not it’s the result of an errant tee shot from someone who refuses to hit a provisional because “he can find it” and doesn’t even care about the 3 minute rule, that’s for the Pro’s.
My conclusion, you can’t satisfy everyone but a tee time format is a tournament format…
I LOVE the tee times and pray they never go back to shotguns!!!
That’s it Mike, Thanks and a Thanks to Ken for putting it together!
Just my 2 cents here, with the Covid varient rearing its ugly head again I am so in favor of tee times!
I think a final round shotgun should wait until next year.
Tee times gives everyone a chance to appropriately practice some form of social distancing on the range, on the putting green and especially in the lounge after the round…
I also had a person do that in my flight on the last day a few years back.
He was to ride with me however when I got to my cart there was another player sitting there and told me the original player moved to play with his friends. At the time I didn’t think much of it because we all tee’d off at the same time.
I learned later he should have been DQ’d.
Well, he did in fact win the flight and went on to play in the Championship round…August 2, 2021 at 6:08 pm in reply to: My unfortunate run in with a stroke shaver (2020 World Am) – Story and advice.. #49417
I will be the first to admit we all make mistakes on a scorecard here and there. Myself, any write overs or erasures I initial that hole and have the fellow competitor also initial. I know it’s not foolproof but when turning in the cards I always ask the competitor to join me in case of questions…
Bob, that’s only 28 groups, it’s normal to start off on the 1st and 10th tee which puts 7 groups an hour on the course…
Passes have been spoken for. Thanks
Very good comments here and some very good scenarios for sure!
L,C and P does and should be used for NET Amateur golfers, most are there for the fun of the tourney and many are lacking a good knowledge of the rules and unless you are actually standing there to provide guidance then some very questionable decisions are made on the part of the player.
This happened last year with the sand fiasco, on a few occasions. I played with folks who took relief in a bunker where I knew it was not allowed! Fried egg being one and close to the lip being another. In several occasions I questioned the players and there was a common theme, anything goes, we have a license to kill in a bunker.
When asking others players in the group there was the same common theme for the most part, in a bunker, smooth it. move it and you have one club length! I also know last year was the exception playing in 3 threesomes so getting a consensus among us we’re starting off 1 for, one against, and one who usually took the stance, well they said abnormal and it was abnormal…
To me over 4 days that just showed how folks took full advantage of the situation!
Myself, here is what I personally believe for L,C and P in an Amateur Tournament:
-No L,C and P for all the Gross Divisions or for Friday’s Championship Round.
-When L,C and P is instituted for the day, you must mark your ball, use the scorecard (SHORT WAY ONLY) clean it and replace it, excluding going from the apron of the green to the green itself.
-DIVOTS, a personal pet peeve of mine! We all play on public courses and make divots, most of us repair or fill them in, too many A-hol*es don’t, especially when wedging it from an area they can’t bring the cart! They bring the clubs to make a shot, not the sand bottle! I just believe that a scorecard relief is warranted every day, the short side of the card, again, except Gross Divisions and the Championship round.
Just like the comments here, there is a lot of passion to get it right, but not everyone agrees on how it should be done.
I think all of us agree that looking back at past scenarios and events that have transpired we all want to provide the best tools possible to all the flights to make a great Amateur Tourney even better!
Can’t wait until August… keep smiling folks, we can do it!
I went on a golf trip with him and his wife Betty a few years back to Scotland, great guy! My condolences to Betty and the family….