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Adam, this isn’t Tommy but I can tell you about the situation we had with tee times in flights 5 and 6. Our first day at The Pearl, our group arrived on the 10th tee right on time and we promptly waited 20 minutes for the fairway to clear. Once we finished the hole we were then the FOURTH group on the next tee box, a par 3. We waited on every tee box from that point on and it took us exactly 6 hours to finish. On Tuesday, it was the complete opposite at Barefoot Dye. We teed off right on time on #10 and in spite of one of our players falling head first into the pond while trying to retrieve his ball (quite a story), we played in a little over 4 1/2 hours, which considering the weather conditions, I thought was amazing. But then on Wednesday at Wachesaw East I was in the first group at 8 AM and it was a pure joy to move right along through the first nine and onto the next nine. When we reached the 6th hole we noticed 2 players leaving the green while we were teeing off and we thought that was a little strange. On the next tee box, when we arrived the 2-some had just hit their tee shots and were driving off. We waited and waited and finally completed the hole. When we arrived at #8 tee box, the 2-some was waiting on a 3-some to clear the green on the par 3. They told us they teed off at 10 AM and it took them 2 1/2 hours to play 7 holes..!!
After making such great time through 14 holes, we completed our round in 5 1/2 hours.
So, both of you agree that it’s OK to play the ball down if 1) You get mud on the ball after every drive, or 2) the fairways haven’t been cut in several days (or rye grass overseed is coming up) and the ball is constantly sitting down to the point that you can’t get clean contact with the back of the ball without having grass between the club face and the ball, or 3) there is a heavy morning dew and the fairways have finally been cut after a week-long rain, leaving grass clippings all over the fairway, you have one of the early tee times and for the next 2 hours, every time you find your drive in the fairway, it is completely covered in grass clippings, or finally 4) there was a pretty strong thunderstorm last night, the course has drained well, but there is quite a bit of debris (leaves, twigs, etc.) through the green. What say you…???
Denny, what I’m wondering about is what kind of pre-tournament instruction is the World Am giving the pros? Are they saying “play it as it lies” is the World Am’s preferred option and not adding an option for the pro to make a decision? Shaftesbury Glen was my opening course on Monday and I played a practice round there Sunday. I had mud balls all day long and saw the assistant pro marking penalty areas. I told him about the mud balls and he said he would report it to the head pro but we still played it down on Monday and there was still plenty of mud on the ball. This is not The Masters….most of the courses we play are just not in good enough shape, especially after an evening rain, to play it down all the time.
Rick, I’m glad you at least got to lift, clean and place. We didn’t have that opportunity but as I said due to the conditions it probably wouldn’t have helped. You know, the majority of the courses used in the World Am are normally not in “play the ball down” condition…if you’re playing a casual round you’re usually rolling the ball in the fairway. A thought just crossed my mind…I just realized that the last 2 or 3 years I can’t remember having any course give my flight a lift, clean and place option, and we have had rainy conditions prior to the World Am that left many courses in borderline conditions. Are the World Am people directing the courses to not allow this unless absolutely necessary? I would say in the last 3 years, playing 12 different courses, the option should have been effect at least 2 or 3 times…just thinking out loud here…who makes the decision..the club pro or the World Am…Scott, any comments…??
Scott, in case you are not familiar with it, there is a web site titled “Myrtle Beach Golf Talk Forum”. It is run by Brian Noblin, a golf trip director that I have used for many years. The web address is http://www.myrtlebeachgolftalk.com Click on the “forum” tab and you can always find reports from a number of golfers about courses they just played. They are very good at giving frank, honest opinions about what they experienced. You might want to assign one of your staff to monitor that site for a couple of weeks prior to making your course assignments. Once I received my course assignments I immediately went to the site to see if there were any reports on my courses. The only course of mine that had any reports was Indigo Creek and several people really trashed it, saying the fairways had not been cut in “weeks”. I found that hard to believe and since I hadn’t played it in a while I decided to play it as one of my 2 practice round courses. I played on Friday before the Monday start and guess what…2 inch long grass in the fairways. I couldn’t believe it. On several occasions I actually had to search a couple of minutes to find my ball IN THE FAIRWAY..!! They wound up cutting the fairways before Monday’s opening but they were not cut close by any means. When I played it on Tuesday I was in an 8:09 group and we had a very heavy dew that morning so when I reached my first drive I found it covered in mud and 1 inch long grass clippings. And the pro had told us before we teed off that “the course is in great condition and you’ll be playing the ball down”. Scott, we had SIX players shoot a NET score in the 70’s. Everyone else was in the NET 80’s and 90’s. We should have never played Indigo Creek, even if they had allowed lift, clean and place, there was no where to place the ball. Hope the Golf Talk Forum site is beneficial to you. I’ll still see you next year for my 24th time.
Scott, what about the SEASONED SENIOR flight? Do I have any competition..?
Bob, call up your flight and look at the players. Your index doesn’t have an ‘R’ beside it. You were probably reduced because you have too many white golf shirts……………
If you call up a flight on the course assignments page you will see a full list of everyone playing in the flight. There is a message at the top of the list that states “R – Reduced Handicap Index”. There is supposed to be a capital “R” next to the index if they have been reduced…and I think in the past there was a code somewhere explaining why they were reduced…i.e…no tournament rounds, not enough scores posted, etc., etc. Just wondering why it is not showing up………….
Scott, thanks for the response. I’ll stay with the 80+ bunch. It will be nice to be the “youngster” for a change. Hey Bob…no, Tom Anderson will not be coming back this year but he still talks about taking the flight title from you.
Alex, good decision to play Glen Dornoch. When you see #’s 16,17 and 18 you’ll know why I say that. You don’t want to face those holes during a tournament for the first time.
I was in MB last month and while I was checking in to play Legends I overheard a couple of guys talking about Heather Glen closing. I played Possum Trot a couple of days later and since PT is part of the Glens group along with Heather Glen I asked the pro about HG. He said the developers were waiting to get rezoning approval (I guess to build houses, etc.) and that might take a year or two to happen. He then said that Possum Trot would be closing because their lease runs out this year. He said that the property might be sold to the city and they plan to build sports complexes on the property. Another source of confirmation is the web site http://www.myrtlebeachgolftalk.com . I check it out several times a year. They have some pretty reliable information.
Having the luxury of living within a 3 1/2 hour drive to MB I am down there about 5 to 6 times a year playing golf. I have played 95% of the courses at one time or another. I had never played Waterway Hills and kept waiting to finally draw it in the World Am. I finally decided before a trip a couple of years ago to go ahead and play it and guess what…it closed down in the interim. With that in mind be advised that Heather Glen and Possum Trot are scheduled to close down sometime within the next year or two so if they have been on your bucket list you better make time to play them.
Please pass this thought on to whom it may concern. This will be my 20th year to play in the World Am. It will be my 9th year to play in the super senior division. My short game is as good as ever but I am getting no distance at all off the tee. Therefore I moved to the forward tees (better known as the “sissy” tees) last fall. Now I am playing course yardages around 5,000 yards instead of the 5400-5700 yard “senior” to “super senior” ranges and frankly am enjoying my rounds much more. I had made up my mind that if I did not play well in the World Am this year it might just be my last. But then I actually stumbled on the fact that you had established a “seasoned senior” division this year for 80 years and up. Here is the thought I want to pass on. I may have missed it but I don’t recall seeing any announcement about the new division. I think there are a lot of people that reached the same conclusion that I was about to reach, that is, the competitive aspect of the World Am is just becoming too challenging and I’m going to drop out. You probably have several hundred guys over the last 5 to 8 years that were playing in the super senior division and quit coming. if you have a way of identifying those players you might want to do a special mailing to them, let them know about the new division and extend a special invitation for them to return next year. You might just pick up another batch of “seasoned” veterans. Just my 2 cents worth…..August 23, 2016 at 8:17 pm in reply to: Bulletin Board Introduction Meeting on Monday at CC #36300
Great idea. If my wife will let me off the dance floor at that time I’ll look forward to meeting everyone…
Can you imagine PGA pros doing that…??? In my mind that has been one of the unique identities of the World Am……….