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  • in reply to: Entry refund #47204
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Most golf courses in Florida, Georgia, South and North Carolina are still open. They are taking certain safety precautions like one person per cart, raised cups and some other measures.

    The national projections are for the virus to be gone completely by June. It is worse in some areas and in those areas people see it much differently than those in low risk or low exposure areas. We just had our first case in our county three days ago. It is a horrible crisis but it is going to decline and is in many areas already.

    We have dealt with Ebola, Aids, H1N1, Zika and now Covid 19, this is not our first encounter with a global pandemic. All of them at the time we promoted as the end of the world. This too will pass and sooner than later.

    Until then stay safe and healthy, you and your family are in my prayers.

    in reply to: Entry refund #47202
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Enough with the doom and gloom and bashing the President. Stay home locked up in your house if you want. Golf corses are open now and the World Am will be held in August like it always is. The world will return to normal in May with everyone taking new levels of safety precautions but life will go on.

    As far as the 19th hole goes lets see what is happening in June or July before we change plans for something that might not even happen

    in reply to: Entry refund #47198
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    The projections are for the virus to be gone completely in June. The world and the US has to return to normal, the government cannot continue to support the people of the United States. It is expected the stay at home orders will be lifted in May.

    Your statistics are measured during the apex of the crisis, look at projections down the road.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

    in reply to: Date for early entry for the prizes #47178
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    The cut off date is April 15th,

    here is a list of prizes
    2 – TaylorMade SIM Drivers
    5 – ClubGlove Travel Bags
    5 – Sets of Cleveland wedges
    5 – TaylorMade Spider Putters
    3 – NIKON COOLSHOT 20i Rangefinders
    5 – Garmin Approach G10 GPS’s
    10 – Pairs of Under Armour Sunglasses
    10 – World Am Custom Nexbelts
    10 – Under Armour Duffle Bags

    https://myrtlebeachworldamateur.com/early-2020-drawing-prizes-announced/

    in reply to: 2020 Pre Tournament #47172
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    In the past the tournaments are normal stoke play with a skins game. I do not know why any of that would change.

    in reply to: MARCH CHAMPIONSHIP #47166
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Thanks Mike, I actually thought I had shot myself out of contention after the first two rounds. I had an 8 hour drive home left so I left to head home and my buddy called me and told me I had finished in 2nd. By that time it was too late to go back.

    The first two days were freezing cold, literally, but other than that it was a great time.

    Now my sights are set on August, World Am here we come

    in reply to: New Flight Suggested #47161
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Just for Fun Division

    Why not compete Just For Fun? No handicaps or scores! Just good friends, some golf clubs and your best attitude! The Just For Fun Flight is great for those who don’t keep a handicap, juniors, mixed couples, friends who want to play together, or those who just can’t seem to find the bottom of the cup!

    No scores, no handicaps, just pure FUN!

    https://myrtlebeachworldamateur.com/just-for-fun-division/

    in reply to: Know it is only early February but #47139
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    I am surprised more people do not rely on ride share. I have always tried to offer my car to transport other players.

    in reply to: MARCH CHAMPIONSHIP #47132
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    I agree Scott, I am looking forward to my first time in the March tourney.

    in reply to: How do you get DQ'd playing within your handicap #47089
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    I have never been adjusted, definitely never been DQ’d. So I don’t have a horse in this race just my opinion. And yes I have ran tournaments with hundreds of players and have played in more than enough tournaments to understand what goes on “behind the scenes” when putting together a tournament of this size.

    Most importantly NO ONE has said or even implied Scott and the WA staff have done anything less than a phenomenal job.

    I believe a disqualification should be used to remove a player not only from the current years event but any future events as well. A DQ should be used for some issue so egregious the WA does not want this player to ever come back.

    If I hear a player is DQ’d my thoughts are, “did he lie about his identity”? “Did he assault another player”? Now if a 15 handicapper shoots 72, yes a DQ might be warranted, I still think a retroactive adjustment solves all potential sandbagging issue. An adjustment could include a penalty, a retroactive adjustment to his lowest posted index, and if that adjustment exceeded a specific number lets say 10 shots an additional penalty could be applied.

    As I said earlier many players save up for a year to be able to come to play in the WA. I am retired but many players use their vacation time to come. They trade family vacations for the WA. Many players travel great distances, from foreign countries, from opposite coasts. For many players the WA is an event that requires financial and resource planning that starts the day the previous WA ends. Everyone knows and adjustment means you shot a lights out round. A disqualification has a totally different implication.

    I would like to see DQs removed except for the most serious of issues and revisit how adjustments are used as an alternative.

    in reply to: How do you get DQ'd playing within your handicap #47085
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Charlie did the person who finished in 1st place get DQd?

    When did they DQ you? (After the 4th round?)

    in reply to: How do you get DQ'd playing within your handicap #47082
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    For what it worth I agree DQs should be eliminated. Some people plan for this event months in advance, start saving up the money months in advance to go, they secure the time off work and in general go to great lengths to attend. I personally travel with someone who goes to the driving range 3 – 4 times a week for two weeks prior to the WA, and this guy does not go to the driving range 3 – 4 times in a year. The WA is a big, big deal for him. It is also a financial strain he has to plan and sacrifice for.

    Adjustments and retro active adjustments can accomplish the same thing as a DQ without ruining the week for someone who has spent good money, taken time off work, travelled great distances to participate. A retroactive adjustment that places the player outside of the top ten in his flight and then force him to play with the adjusted handicap for the final round.

    By the way, I have played a lot of golf in my lifetime and I have never met a 20+ handicapper who could manipulate their scores, provided the player had the requisite number of scores and T scores in their HI. So whatever Erik is, he is not a cheater.

    in reply to: Handicap #47079
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    As Rick mentioned golf is a game of honor, played by people of honor, there is no place in the game for using the rules dishonestly

    Would you really want to win knowing you had to break the rules to win, or would you rather just play your best with honor and finish wherever you finish?

    in reply to: How do you get DQ'd playing within your handicap #47072
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Raymond you are correct, if your Son-in-law saved strokes by picking up at 9 it could have impacted. I do not know if or how the WA accounted for 9s when they calculated reductions and DQs, although I would have to think it entered into their equation somewhere. I don’t think a single 9 or even two 9s in a round would have any affect for a higher handicapper like your son-in-law. But I really don’t know.

    in reply to: How do you get DQ'd playing within your handicap #47070
    Tommy Briggs
    Participant

    Jeffrey I never said I agreed with the WA process. I have seen so many strange things happen on a golf course nothing surprises me. However I also am empathetic to the WA situation who are trying to address the concerns of 3,200 golfers. Compare the number of DQs to the field. 1% would equal 32 DQ’s, and I doubt we came close to that number. So if the rules are good for 99% of the field I would say that is more than fair. (Unless you are part of the 1%) As I replied in another post in this thread, increase the penalty / adjustment, eliminate the DQ and let everyone play.

    You said that your handicap does not go down based on one score. I merely pointed out that yes it can go down as a result of a single score and it will, if the one score is a Tournament score. (USGA Handicap Manual: Rule 10-3) If the average of your two lowest T scores is lower than your current HI by 3.0 or more, you may see a reduction.

    Jeffrey you do not see a reduction because:
    a. you have a low HI and your T score average has not created a 3.0 exception to your HI.
    and / or
    b. you have a higher number of T scores so the impact of your T score average is less.
    (See Handicap Reduction Table 5)
    I also have a lower handicap and typically post over 40 T scores a year, so I have only seen two reductions in my HI in over 30 years. The number of posted T scores per year minimizes the impact of a low T score average and potential reduction.

    We are talking about differentials not score relative to par. So an even par round might result in a differential of 2.6 (rounded to 3.0) depending on the course rating and slope. This would not create a reduction for a handicap of 6.0 or more. Now a T score average of 2.6 (rounded to 3.0) could affect the HI of anyone with a HI over 7.0 who has a limited number of posted T scores

    The WA instantaneously adjusts your HI, to include the T scores you have just posted that day. The instant your T score is posted your will see an affect until your next HI is released. The WA uses the adjusted HI immediately.

    I pulled my information from the USGA’s Handicap Manual please see Rule 10.3 a-d for a far more complete explanation.

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