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The millions of people taking dirt naps might disagree that it is BS. The families of the SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DEAD Americans might disagree it is all BS. The hospitals throughout the US unable to accept new patients because they are full of people who need medical care might disagree it is all BS. I have never known BS to kill million people, but then again I never knew Jews had space lasers and were using them to start wildfires in California, or Democratic politicians were cannibals and ate babies, or that Covid vaccines were really just a plan to embed microchips in all of us, or 5G cell phone towers caused Covid, but you and your other QAnon fellows carry on. Mike Lindell has a pillow with your name on it, for your service.
I absolutely agree there is a value to playing with the leaders in the final round if you are one of the leaders. I also absolutely agree there is a value to knowing how the entire field is doing if you are competing for the lead in your flight. However if you are going to ignore the rest of the field and focus on winning within the final round group you are playing with, you are probably going to find yourself wondering what happened when you are passed by someone behind you.
If you really want to focus on winning your flight we (the WA) needs to use something like Golf Genius, which is used for Fridays Championship round, for the entire tournament. This app allows you to see how the whole field is doing in real time, not just the scores of the group you are playing with. The FSGA in Florida now requires it for all events so you are able at any time to see where you stand in real time.
Regarding the skins games, we figured it out for last years WA and the past two March Championships, it is really not a big deal, unless someone wants to make it a big deal. And as my friend Bob has stated, this is a golf tournament not a skins game, the focus should be on the tournament not the skins game. Whoever runs the game tees off last and collects the money on the first day. The first three days have already been paid out by Thursday morning, so all we are talking about is figuring out the skins for the last day. Again if you are running the game tee off last or work with someone to collect cards until the final group comes in.
I think many of you are missing Scott’s point. Yes there are millions of tournaments that arrange for final round groupings based on the leaderboard. There is not ONE single tournament that is doing it with 3,500 plus golfers competing in over 40 separate flights. A PGA event has 70 or so golfers that need to be notified. They have a portal to find their tee times. Most USGA or state sanctioned events have a field of around 144, and maybe 4 – 5 flights. How do you insure 3,000 to 4,000 golfers and over 40 flights are notified what time they tee off the next day? By Text? What if my phone gets lost or my battery dies? By email? What if I don’t have access to my email when I am in Myrtle Beach. How do you insure EVERYONE has received the notification of their tee time, which is going to arrive after 6:00 in the evening the night before.
I have won my flight twice in the last 5 years, and top 5 finishes in two additional years so I speak with a little experience and an obvious commitment to winning. I agree I am going to play some shots differently if I know where I stand against the FIELD, I am not making decisions based on how the other two or three players in my group are doing. Too many times I have lost tournaments to someone 4 – 5 shots back, or won tournaments when I was 4 – 5 shots back on the final day.
I wish I was able to play this year and I will return in 2022, but until then play well my friends, fairways and greens for all of you.
I personally recommend VRBO. Their prices are as good or better than most hotels and you get the advantage of a normal house, kitchen etc. If you travelling with another golfer the pricing looks really good, but they usually have some pretty good rates that one person can handle.
Mike I am well, fully vaccinated and doing great, thanks for asking.
You have never heard of such a rule because there is no such rule in any form of organized golf, period.
Like a mulligan per round or rolling the ball over in the fairways are not rules that exist in any golf world except for some Sunday game played among friends
Having played last year at the World Am and this year at the March Championship, I can tell you that if the ball does not come to rest IN THE HOLE, it is not considered holed, and you must play your ball where it comes to rest. It is no different than in a normal round pre-Covid and you hit the pin, it enters the hole and bounces out, it is played from where the ball comes to rest and is NOT considered holed..
My friend Jim from the FSGA if he reads this will chime in, but there is not a single competition played in the United States of America where you do not play the ball from where it comes to rest regardless of whether you “think” it would have gone in.
USGA RULES 6.5
A player has completed a hole:
In stroke play, when the player holes out under Rule 3.3c.
The definition of HOLED
When a ball is at rest in the hole after a stroke and the entire ball is below the surface of the putting green.
When the Rules refer to “holing out ” or “hole out,” it means when the player’s ball is holed.
For the special case of a ball resting against the flagstick in the hole, see Rule 13.2c (ball is treated as holed if any part of the ball is below the surface of the putting green).
And yes as Stephen mentioned there is a $50 referral credit off your registration fee for any new golfer who registers and provides your name at the time of registration.
I believe the $50.00 applies to the entry fee AFTER the reduced entry has passed.
You had the opportunity to register for a greater discount than the $50.00 offered off the full price.
The early registration discount was $120.00 so a new player registering today with a $50 discount is still paying $70.00 more than you did if you registered early.
I see it as an incentive for players who did not know about the World Am until after early registration was over.
I am not Scott but I can tell you the answer will be no. The number of golfers in each flight is established based on a set number of players to best accommodate two flights playing a single course, regardless of tee times or shotgun, trying to accommodate extra players within a flight is only going to skew the numbers for each flight.
If your friend were allowe3d to do that someone would get bumped up into a higher flight based upon space.
Danny Fox is correct, if a 55 year old and a 65 year old want to play together, the 65 year old has to move down and play in the 50 – 59 year old flight.
If your handicap is 20 and his is 18, you will have to move down and play in the 18 handicap flight.
To play together you have to move down to the younger flight or lower handicap flight.
How does a good golfer get rewarded if every bad shot that comes to rest in a bad lie is simply lifted, cleaned and placed on a nice cushy lie with a direct line to the green?
Where is the skill if you can just bang the hell out of the ball without any care for where it goes because a simple lifting, cleaning and placing the ball eliminates any penalty for a bad shot?
If trees and roots are not to come into play during a round, why do golf courses not cut down all the trees?
Why not play everything as a lateral and just bang the hell out of the ball and then bring it to the nearest point in the fairway and place it there.
Golf is supposed to be a game of skill, requiring practice and precision and those efforts are supposed to be rewarded. Bad shots are supposed to hurt and cause difficulty and have penalties.
I think more people should play in the just for fun division then they could do whatever they want because there really is no winner in a game without rules.
Harry as Jim mentioned in many situations just like a red or white line in certain instances the “issue” extend upwards and in some cases could include a ball that has come to rest in a tree or bush.
I have made my opinion clear several times but there should be no remedy for a bad lie. Bad lies are part of golf plain and simple and to try to remove them from the game is a game that is no longer golf. The day that every shot is played off of a preferred lie is wrong and goes against the very ideology of the game of golf. If the game was intended to be played without the fear of coming to rest on a root or in water, or in adverse conditions then golf courses would not have trees or water and the General Area would be made of pristine artificial turf. You are supposed to have bad lies in golf, it is part of the game and to use exceptions outside of the rules of golf to eliminate bad lies is not golf.
My swing coach used to tell me he was not going to spend a lot of time with me on bunker shots, he thought it made better sense to teach me how to hit the ball where I wanted it to go and avoid bunkers.
Let me know how that works out for you
If the WA extends the early entry date it affects a whole lot of people from all over the world. It enables people who have no valid reason to delay registering the opportunity to wait just because they want to. It would create a real issue for the WA I think.
Just my two cents, I would register and if the situation in Canada does not change ask Scott for a reduction in the $50.00 cancellation fee, or allow you to apply your entry fee to next years event. This would allow the WA to identify a specific group of people (Canadians) affected by a government policy they have no control over. I just think you are more likely to see that happen then to see the WA delay the early entry registration and might be more palatable for the WA to accept.
By the way I would address this by email not in a public forum. Asking Scott to make decisions that affect the field in public opens the door for other people to make requests because World Am Policy suddenly is no longer a set of rules , just suggestions. I have always found Scott and the WA staff to be reasonable and I think you should be able to work something out. (Privately)
- This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Tommy Briggs.
Oh by the way anyone needing an extra 19th hole guest pass please let me know, standard trade, guest pass for PGATSS gift card.
The email I received today announcing the April 7 registration stated a full 19th hole.
I think there is a point where you have to decide who and what you are. Are you a golf tournament or a social event with golf. I am an alcoholic so the idea of standing in line for free drinks does absolutely nothing for me. As you mentioned Mike standing in line for five to ten minutes for a single BBQ rib and a tablespoon of baked beans does not justify an additional fee in my mind.
However if I was bringing my wife and / or children, and / or travelling with another family, I think the 19th hole would be worth every penny they charge for it. The fact that every year guest passes are sold and traded for demonstrates to me there are people who need or want additional 19th hole passes. However not only am I paying for a 19th hole ticket I will not use, I am paying for a second ticket that if I do not sell it will go into the hotel trash can.
I absolutely understand there are decisions that have to be made to accommodate the field. Gift bag prizes are what you see is what you get because you cannot try to offer numerous gift bag options. But I have to believe there are options for a “Golf Only” registration fee. Charge $500.00 for golf only, $559. for golf and 19th hole. Then charge an additional $25 – $50 for each additional 19th hole guest pass and I would find it hard to believe the WA would not come out ahead or at least break even.