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  • in reply to: Course Concerns #50703
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    David, re: cost. The cost is not the primary reason I have decided to not come back. the corses are not measuring up to my expectations. With the total number of courses in MB area, I just think we should not have been on 6 of the courses I have been on the last 4 years. I have been on golf trips to other venues that the courses were all top grade courses (and one trip was to MB-Caledonia, true blue & arrowhead). I am at that stage in life when I just can’t take sub par golf courses. I’m even having issues with the bunkers at my home course not getting the attention they deserve. I enjoyed the years I have been to the WA, met a lot of people, bought a bunch at the CC, sill enjoying my Peltz Putting green, finally got a SKYTRACK(after seeing it at WA). I’m even working on a way to get to the CC this year. Most of the WA STAFF know me and I appreciate what they do each year. I’ll probablly even try to catch up with them in July when I’m down on vacation. Y’all have fun.

    in reply to: Course Concerns #50690
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    David, I agree with all you said. I am going to attempt to put my perspective on all this and I am not trying to offend anyone. I think the WA staff does a tremendous job on putting together the event.
    I also think that the staff has a higher up corporation that they fall under (i am not using a name b/c I will probably get it wrong).
    When the WA first started it was set up for this week to promote this “in between week” as it was not a good week for golf, due to where it falls. At this time, the golf courses were pretty much on their own, The WA did a tremendous job of putting golfers on the courses when Dupont sponsored it.
    as it grew, so did the number of co-ops that started buying up the golf courses (or management groups).
    This Week has now become a BIG WEEK for most of these courses.—Which leads to the fact that many courses have become lazy in how they go about treating us ie: putting us on courses that are not playable, not bothering to check on pace of play, not having them properly marked, etc. A lot of courses are needed for 3000+ golfers. if a group has 20+/- courses and 3 or 4 are not up to par, then to get the good ones, you have to take the bad ones. This is what I believe is happening. I honestly do not know how this can be solved. Of the 3000 that play, some players do not really care about the course conditions in my opinion, just as long as they are at the beach and playing. I have played a lot of courses that I will not set foot on if I am paying them. I have enjoyed playing in this event but i doubt I will participate this year. I just can not take playing on poor golf courses for what this cost now. All of tis is just my take on it.

    in reply to: Course Concerns #50682
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Very well said. Thanks.

    in reply to: Course Concerns #50664
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Mike, appreciate the info on course condition. I am coming down in July for vacation. I have a friend in the area and he keeps me in the loop on a lot of the courses condition as he knows I don’t like to play on poor condition courses. I have voiced my concern on other topics so no need to go there again. I will tell you that the procedure that Champions uses can have you playing on them and in good condition in about 3 months. Have witnessed this at my home course. I truly hope that everyone gets all the good courses

    in reply to: “Un”official Poll: Tee Times vs Shotgun for 2022 #50617
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    At a college event this past weekend saw a new way to handle A-B grouping with shotgun starts. Send b teams early so they could tee off and be in FW IN POSITION as others arrived. Played 36 holes in 10 hours. A rover riding backwards can spot a gap and then they are out of position. If no one is pushing the field, you will have 6 hour rounds. I thought several years Bach the WA went y to Max of 96 on each course

    in reply to: “Un”official Poll: Tee Times vs Shotgun for 2022 #50605
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Mr. Messer you have one thing correct, it has turned into an “outing “ but that is not what it is advertised as. I will not take the time to explain what has happened since 2005 when I first started playing. But what I have expressed in previous posts. The main reason is not the WA STAFF fault. I don’t think they get the support needed from the Host Clubs. It has been years since I have seen a pro on the golf course. One ranger used to ride the course and when he saw a gap, he informed the group and about 3 holes later you would see the Pro. But I regress. Since I have seen how it has become an outing and played with several that are not interested in it being a tournament, I have decided I am not playing this event any more. I’m going to spend my money on playing better course at different venues. The last 3 years I have only played 2 decent course each year. Once again the WA STAFF was led to believe that their course was in playable condition and it was not. The staff can not inspect each course, they have to rely on the courses to be truthful.
    I understand that this may be turning around as I read that some of the northern courses were not participating this year. I hope the Wa has gotten a hand on this now and return to the old days. JMO

    in reply to: Starters & Rules #50527
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Rick, sorry to hear of your health issues. We are both at the age where any little thing can mess with us. Important for us to take care of ourselves by staying in the best physical shape we can (also mentally). I’m opting out this year as I’ve had enough of the poor courses (was great news to hear that a lot of the up north courses are not participating this year). I have an option of helping a vendor this year do I should still be able to catch up with you at CC. TAKE CARE my friend.

    in reply to: $600 #50517
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Would not be that bad a price if we knew we were getting 4 “good” courses.

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    in reply to: Starters & Rules #50489
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Rick, ALL of the issues that you should know SHOULD be covered by the sheet handed to you on your first tee. Unfortunately this is has become lost from the WA due to the laziness of the host pro. I had an issue this year with someone about the local Rule for a lost ball. Fortunately we did have a sheet that day and it was not shown as a local Rule. Also, I do think it was mentioned on BB and asserted by WA prior to competition. Hope you are having a good year do far and look forward to catching up with you.

    in reply to: Starters & Rules #50299
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Starter s at some courses had no idea that the the time on sheet was the earliest you could start, called us to the tee while on the practice putting green 30 minutes before starting time, and started us a full 10 minutes ahead. I got to hit 2 practice putts.

    in reply to: “Un”official Poll: Tee Times vs Shotgun for 2022 #50298
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Bruce, all you stated is correct. Without people with the knowledge of the proper way to time pace of play, it will not accomplish anything. When I first started playing on the world am, we would actually see the host pro on the course monitoring pace of play. Sadly, the local pros and host clubs are using us as just a cash cow. They tell the WA that they do this and also that the course is on top to shape just to be allowed to host. My group was told we were out of position(by a starter) as we were approaching a greens. We finished and proceeded to the next hole to wait to hit our tee shots. This same clown was on the next fairway as we waited to hit into the green. Had not a clue as to how to monitor groups. It is impossible for the WA staff to control the courses. They have to rely on the courses to be truthful that they are following the guidelines the WA request. We pay to much money for the courses to treat us this way. I am not finding fault with Scott and the WA STAFF but I honestly believe the courses are taking advantage of the situation. The last 3 years, I have had 2 courses each year that I would not spent money to play. I will also note that one of those courses(Founders) was in better shape than I expected, but I could see the signs that it was headed back to its ugly self. I wish it was some way that the Myrtle Beach Golf Association would look at the complaints that some courses get and ban those courses from hosting. But I know the answer to that. I think I will just start playing on events that I know which courses I’m playing before I send in my money. I’ve played in this for 17 years and have enjoyed it every year, but that’s it for me.

    in reply to: Course Selection & Thoughts #50288
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    For what we pay to play in the WA, why should we ever get a “D” course????

    in reply to: “Un”official Poll: Tee Times vs Shotgun for 2022 #50287
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    I will always go for tee times. First and foremost it makes it feel like a tournament and not an outing. Even if the host course does not treat it as a tournament(it has just become a money maker for them.) I was disappointed with 2 of my courses this year and the way they treated us. Had no idea of how to correct run a tournament, not did they deserve to host one. I do think that the staff need to put stopwatches in the gift bag as no one understands how fast 3 minutes goes by looking for a ball. My group waited at least 7 minutes on the group in front of us on the 18th hole at Meadowlands. I have enjoyed this tournament since 2005, but this may be my last.

    in reply to: How to notify players to show up for skins entry on day 1 #49936
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    David, I never called anyone anything. But I see you are running one so I guess you know best. Every year with the shotgun starts, I had to listen to the spill from the skins guy making sure everyone was in. One year at the legends, he interrupted the Pro just as I asked a question about “the rules of the competition” and before he could answer, he gave the mic over and never got back to what he was disposed to do. We played that day with WRONG instructions. This is a tournament and that’s what I pay to participate in. So just don’t bother to ask me please.

    in reply to: How to notify players to show up for skins entry on day 1 #49916
    Bob Newman
    Participant

    Some of us could do not really care about the skins and it completely taken over the bulletin board. Thanks Scott for trying to get them in one spot. The best part of tee times is not having to listen to 5 minutes of the skins guy every day.

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