[greg messer]

Flight 23 or 24, First day, I need a ride to Crown Park. I’m staying at the foot of the 501 on Oceans Blvd, I can get a ride to a pickup point or if you’re close you parking lot. Gas share.

Greg Messer 734-658-6051 gregoryme5609@gmail.com

[greg messer]

Im 9n flight 23, may need ride on first and fourth day. Greg Messer 734 658 6051. Staying at Holiday sands north

[greg messer]

No, getting some of the weaker courses off the rotation won’t help slow play, only enforcement and penalties will. The courses have no incentive unless WAHC either offers incentives to curb it or disincentives to courses that allow slow play, and WAHC has to put some teeth in it, penalties for slow player, or the group. I hate being in a group when that’s how the penalties are accessed, and I will tell a slow player to speed it up if that’s the case.

[greg messer]

Yes please. Also, how do you pick rotations? couple of the higher handicap had 3 premium courses last year, mine had none. middle tier at best, with Hackler being in poor condition.

[greg messer]

Shotgun. Best option for realities of 3500 players. It’s a golf course, you know what hole you’re starting on, warm up for that hole! Carpooling, even with guys in same flight, is huge pain with tee times; weather, who wants that last tee time and 99 heat and humidity…had a couple older guys nearly collapse on course last year. Pace of play, if a club won’t enforce it with penalty to offending player after 1 warning, ban the the club the next year. Double the penalty to guilty player after 2nd penalty. My state golf association enforces it, every tournament is 4 1/2 hours…period. If you’re concerned about covid, wear a mask and don’t congregate..easy enough. Mr. Newman, it is an outing with competition, unless the host courses are going to put forward rangers on problem holes and and least 4 pace of play rangers on the course and enforce pace of play. You want a pure tournament experience, play in State or USGA sanctioned tournaments, even orgs like Golfweek leagues can’t create a pure tournament experience, and they are tighter run than the WAHT!

Range, only allow a 25 ball bag. Warm up don’t try to fix your game before a round. Practice green, same thing, get a feel for speed and get off of it. you’re mentally killing yourself other wise.

I enjoy the WAHT experience, Tee times just make it unfair to whoever gets the last half of front or back nine.

[greg messer]

Last year with tee times in the 9HAndicap mid Sr group we had several people in the middle of the tee times complain of 6+ hour rounds. One slow group can slow down half or the whole course. I played in 4 1/2 to almost five 1/2 hours. I teed off first twice, 2 hours or less on front almost 3 or more on back. Better policing by rangers on slow groups is the only solution with penalty to slow player. Easy to spot them, they stand around till it’s their turn them measure or select club. C’mon, we know how to combat slow play, just do it already. Do shotguns, best option, and enforce pace of play…period. All the other comments on benefits of shotguns are applicable too. Weather, car pooling, getting half the day back. But, if you don’t enforce pace of play, it’s a horrible experience.

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