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- This topic has 14 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated 3 years, 7 months ago by Ken Weatherford.
- May 28, 2019 at 3:52 pm #46041john dickieParticipant
When does the 12 month period for Hcp. start? I live in the snow belt and only play a few months per year.May 29, 2019 at 1:54 pm #46042
John, here is what was contained in the online document I just filled out verifying that I had a handicap and where my handicap is established…..
“I understand the handicap committee is permitted to utilize my lowest handicap index between September 1, 2018 and August 15, 2019.”
Think that should answer your question.
See you MBJune 7, 2019 at 9:42 am #46050Josh WurzbergerParticipant
It totally sucks for us who live in snowy states. We didn’t start in MN this year till about 3rd week in April. Unfortunately my low is 8.1 last September and now I’m currently 12.2. 16 strokes I’m giving up to the field i’ll be stuck playing with.June 7, 2019 at 4:40 pm #46051Dale CraigParticipant
Agree Josh! Played my last round of 2018 on October 6 and did not play again until second week of May here in Syracuse NY. We have had so much rain this spring that courses have routinely been closed. I only have 6 rounds in so far. May was actually the 3rd wettest ever. Handicap was 7.9 at the end of the year and trending up to 11 and I don’t hope for much improvement as this old body ain’t getting any younger.June 14, 2019 at 10:32 am #46064
The lowest in last 12 months is a better indicator of what your potential will be and will be fairer for the whole body of work. This one step probably eliminates a great deal being D Q,d. JMOJune 14, 2019 at 5:00 pm #46066Dale CraigParticipant
I wish that a 6 month or even 2019 only were used. Speaking only for myself as I stated previously, we north residing golfers who may not get to play all winter I feel are disadvantaged already. The last 2 years at the WA I have finished at nearly the bottom of my flight, I feel a large part of this is that playing southern/Bermuda grass courses is quite a bit different than the northern courses I’ve played my entire life. Getting 5 southern rounds a year once a year and not playing 10-12 months a year is a handicap in itself. It would be great if past WA performance were somehow brought into the equation, but I realize this is probably not going to happen considering the size of the field.
I am seriously considering dropping out of the WA this year if my game doesn’t take a serious and prolonged turn for the better. There is no fun playing when I can’t even think about being competitive. I’ve seen enough in my 3 previous WA’s to know that the same type of handicap manipulation occurs here as everywhere else I’ve ever played. People here are probably just a little more careful because of getting caught.June 15, 2019 at 3:29 pm #46069
Since they went to this about 3 years ago, I have been hit with playing my best golf right after the WA and therefore getting reduced 2 to 3 shots the next year. I agree with you that about half the field in any flight does not stand a chance because they do not have a correct handicap- some because of what you stated, some because they do not putt everything out in most of their rounds, some because they do not play it down all year. But what this system tries to do is protect the field form those that only post the bad rounds and never the good scores. In any Net Event, you will all ways have the Baggers, and in my flights, I think the WAd has done a good job on protecting the majority.June 18, 2019 at 6:57 pm #46083
I realize that Southern Bermuda grasses are much different. I hear people who are not used to putting on Bermuda greens complain about how slow they are. I play almost exclusively on Bermuda greens all year yet when I go to MB, the greens there this time of year are absolutely the slowest I play on all year. I just hope I draw courses that actually have grass on their greens and their traps have at least been raked/turned before we start play. In the past, I have drawn courses that failed in both of those categories.
For the handicap scenario and those of you living where your golf season is shorter, there have been a fair share of players who have won the overall championship from northern states. I realize not everyone can play golf every day but I think those who do so well play enough golf to get their game close to their handicap. Once daylight savings time starts, you kinda have to figure out a way to play enough golf to hone your game. Not saying it is easy to do.
June 18, 2019 at 7:07 pm #46085
- This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by Rick Kimbrell.
Dang it, it will not let me edit it again. So anyway, another thing you guys living up North could do is move South. Say maybe, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia…any of those would be good and they need more folks. Now, Texas on the other hand…we are pretty full right now and taking reservations. Just kidding of course. 🙂June 18, 2019 at 7:52 pm #46086
Rick, I think you and I were in the same flight last year and we got a couple courses that were not in the best of shape but I had expected that due to the winter of 2018. One of the courses we had was Founders and I find it interesting that they are still advertising like they have a great course, I seriously doubt it is. When I go down on vacation in July, I plan on going by to see if I can take a tour of the course to see what shape it is in. I honestly do not think they should have hosted last year. Some of my friens have already been down this year and are returning with good reviews of courses they have played. so I am keeping my fingers crossed for this year.June 19, 2019 at 11:37 pm #46095
Bob, you are correct. Founders was horrible last year. While it wasn’t as bad as the year I played Barefoot Norman on greens that were layered in sand (not just dusted with sand like you do when you punch greens) Founders was just not good. I played The Witch one year when the greens were very sparse with huge bare spots on them but they weren’t sanded and you did not have to play thru footprints on them. I would much rather play in those conditions, if we have to play a course with greens not in good shape. But, it wasn’t just the greens at Founders…I thought the entire course was in bad shape.
I remember people complaining loudly about conditions down at Wedgefield for several years. Crap, when I played Wedgefield, it was in better shape than Founders was last year.
June 20, 2019 at 12:56 pm #46100
- This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by Rick Kimbrell.
Rick, it was terrible in every aspect. I told the pro after playing it, he should be ashamed to accept any money for us playing there and told the WA staff they should not pay them at all. The WA staff have to take the word of the local club about its condition and this is not the first time Founders has had issues with the flight I was in. I will never to my money to play there. I tried to give them a bad review but it didn’t stay on their site for long, probably have a full time person checking and taking them down. I have been pleasantly surprise with what other people are telling me what they have experienced this year but they are like me, only play the better courses. Also have a buddy living and working at one of the better layouts and he is already lining up courses for vacationJuly 23, 2019 at 3:29 pm #46299Ed GuertinParticipant
I also play up north for a short season and sometimes some god ugly greens. When they started to go to the handicap low for the 12 months, I took a hit there myself. Does it mean I want to take my clubs and go home because I won’t win? No, I love this tourney, I love all the guys I have met and play with, and I really think it evens up the playing field. I play to enjoy myself and I do. If I win something, great! The perks are over the top to begin so I’m a winner already!July 23, 2019 at 10:23 pm #46314
Good attitude to take down Ed. Hope you do well.July 26, 2019 at 1:54 pm #46339Ken WeatherfordParticipant
Hey Rick! I see you didn’t put Oklahoma in that list of states and it’s great here. Great weather, great folks, and we are taking reservations all year long.
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